S/he has said a LOT of things. I'm so down with transfolk, but at this point I'm not sure anyone should believe a word that comes out of this person's mouth.
Yeah, ditto. I'm actually worried that some of the biggest wank on it seems to be about the pronouns--this is a person whose EVERY SINGLE WORD about his/her identity is suspect. Along with identifying as male, he's identified as the earthly avatar of a fictional character, and the fake blood relative of a famous actor.
And poor Turimel being told she's holding a grudge? Of course she is, she lost THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS and had the police at her house and collection agencies and wtfever else, it's not like you just stop being pissed about that because time has gone by. :p
Yeah. I understand the trans community getting pissy about the terminology, but give the way fandom tends to fawn over the mens, protraying oneself as a man in fandom has huge advantages, many of which thanfiction appears to have exploited. Also: god I don't really want to show respect for this person. :/
Oh agreed. I just won't believe anything this person says. I won't believe that he's trans, or that he's not trans, or that he's american, or that he's irish, or that he's read the books or not read the books. Honestly. Completely unbelief.
Yeah, it's just that in this case I question EVERYTHING about this person, full stop. But your point is taken, and I sort of agree. I mean, it's out of respect to the other transpeople we know that I would do either way. I don't want to lump them in with this...creature...but really, I have nothing invested in the pronouns thing.
Yeah, but this is like people making fun of Nick Griffin (our local far-right party leader) for having one eye. It's not that he isn't an irredeemable fascist thug, it's that the fact that he has one eye isn't relevant. And I realise that there's an additional dynamic with the gender imbalance in fandom (boy howdy, do I realise it), but still, even if you have to think of it as showing respect for transpeople in general, please do.
In that case though, there is at least a fact to work with. I'm not arguing that we use female pronouns. I certainly wouldn't want anyone feeling diminished (other than...the person in question). But I really not convinced yet that this person is trans, or irish, or living in his car, or whatever else he's said. Since we really can't know anything concrete about each other in fandom, as soon as you start deliberately, demonstrably lying about EVERYTHING, it all comes up for question.
Yeah, I know, but as I said to Ash, I don't think that any of us get to decide whether thanfiction is an Acceptable Transperson. There is SO MUCH wrong with this whole thing that, you know, let's just use the pronoun he wants us to use and be done with that part of it.
Yeah, that's the crux of the argument that I was trying to make. I truly don't care what he himself wants. I care what other transfolks think of us by our actions.
Yeah I'm less interested in the personal stuff than in the SCAMMING PEOPLE FOR MONEY USING FANDOM stuff. I can't even believe the taking of commissions. I mean, Rhysenn tried that years to ago great wank reaction. When it that become okay? The currency of fandom is supposed to be reviews, recs, and fic, not cash. :/ In other words, hey thanfiction, GET OFF OUR LAWN.
Commissions (or lack thereof) seem to be a fandom-to-fandom issue.
I mean, furry fandom has always had commissions.
So that may've bled into Twilight stuff, and is fairly reasonably the norm. I dunno.
Mostly, my problem is that a) he's clearly targeting a particularly vulnerable population, there, and, far less importantly, b) it SUCKS. Wow, does it suck.
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Oh my.
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If nothing else, he /has/ said he's trans.
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And poor Turimel being told she's holding a grudge? Of course she is, she lost THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS and had the police at her house and collection agencies and wtfever else, it's not like you just stop being pissed about that because time has gone by. :p
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But yeah, I take your point. Actually I saw we do what other transfolks want rather than what he wants. :/
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But basically, I figure it's polite to /other/ trans/queer folks I know not to go, "I doubt his sexual orientation and gender choices."
And I can happily festoon the world with my "this person is fucked up and look! That art SUCKS!" vibes.
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I mean, furry fandom has always had commissions.
So that may've bled into Twilight stuff, and is fairly reasonably the norm. I dunno.
Mostly, my problem is that a) he's clearly targeting a particularly vulnerable population, there, and, far less importantly, b) it SUCKS. Wow, does it suck.
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