ivyblossom | Too much posting today. But. Character note/question.

Have you ever planned an event in a fic that you know you will only ever show from one, distant, point of view? And then...found yourself caught with a lot of detail about the relationship in question that you really can't ever expose, or, would never really have the chance to expose?

Rough explanation: basically. Draco and Pansy are together. (Pre-Origins.) Everyone knows that Draco and Pansy are together. One day Parvati is wandering around, maybe, say, coming back from the library, and spots Draco smooching with, let's say, Blaise. (Presuming for the moment that Blaise is a boy.) Parvati is shocked. Parvati completely spazzes out and tells her sister, who promptly tells her to grow the hell up. Parvati feels sick over the whole thing and just tries not to think about it. Padma thinks she's too cool for words and goes to tell Pansy. (random note: a lot of the women in HP have names that start with P.) Pansy gives her a steely look and threatens to throw her out of a tower window if she ever says anything at all about it to anyone ever again. Pansy, of course, already knows about it and has her own issues.

This sequence will never ever be told from Draco's point of view, as he is completely unaware that anyone knows about it.

And yet. In my head I have his complete train of thought on the subject at the time. I know all about the history between him and Blaise. But wouldn't it be cooler if I just let it go? Just have it observed? Wouldn't it make Draco more interesting, or would it make him less interesting?

I'm going to non-sympathetic Draco here. I tend to write him too sympathetically. For this fic I'm working on at the moment, I want Draco to be a total unknown quantity. So no Draco POVs. Do you think that would work? Or would it just be wierd?

Does this post even make sense?

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I'm always drawn to trying to write one "unreachable" character, one who you get now insight from but is a major player. The hard part is as a writer you know what his or her insight would be and want to share so everybody understands what you're thinking as you create this story. And as interesting as that can be, I like the idea of the unknown sort of character because it keeps things very open for the reader. If they know everything already, why read?

I think it would work. Sometimes it's better to write in a more detatched style because it leaves the reader to formulate their own opinions without the writer forcing them into anything. I think it would work with Draco because he is already a complex character without you having to give him meaning. Like, some paintings look like a mess of tiny blobs and squiggles from close up, but if you look at them from a distance, you can see them as the great works of art that they are. Ooh, poetic.

Impressionism of words....yes:-)

The post makes sense...

I would sugest for you to write it and just get it out... put it away in a drawer... so that at least it won't niggle your noodle.

Then countinue on with the other POVs
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In a way, I can see how this could work. As long as you don't mess up and have someone say another person's line. Get that? :) Sorry I'm so confusing.

Another thing, where can find you fic? Or is it a WIP?

i can totally see out-of-pov inserts working well in an otherwise one-pov-only fic. i've done it, and while i don't know if that counts for anything, it seemed for work ok, if only because it was necessary. especially good if you had -several- out-of-pov snippets, worked in at strategic points --like flashbacks, really-- to illustrate the text. lots of books that i can think of, have inserts of seemingly unrelated material, that end up illuminating character or plot in unexpected ways, later.

oh and you have -no idea- how happy i am you're doing -anything- with draco, and especially letting him slip into not-quite-sympatheticness because of course that just adds depth and lets him "redeem" himself or be more of a surprise when he acts differently, or when we -do- know how he feels.

it's sort of like your non-draco dream sequences. they are important and interesting and they do much to illuminate both the fic and draco's character, indirectly.

if ``more is always good" doesn't exactly work, well then i think "you can always -make- more be good" can definitely be true ~:)

~reena

Yes, it makes sense.

I see no problem with a lack of Draco POV - he doesn't always have to be the centre of our attention. Plus all the better for the story if you know all the back history anyway. You might find that some of the history slips in naturally, you might not, but you've got a well -rounded and -thought out universe which can only be beneficial to your writing and ultimately to our reading (selfish, moi?)

But who cares what we think anyway, so just go write girl!

This post makes sense ^_^ And It is a Pain in the ass to have something you realy want to point out that you have to leave unsaid. But, It might even be better give Everyone's POV except the the main people's envolved (Draco and Blaise) That way it's the whole picture but the essential center... the core is missing and that way the reader has to fill that in for themselves. In some cases thats actually a whole lot more effective. *shrug*

I agree with ixchelmala, write it up and put it in a file. Who knows it might be useful later. But then again, my mantras do include: "more is more" and "edit later". Snerk. And you do know how much I like the multiple points of view and how well you do "secondary" characters.

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