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Americans Pay Price for Speaking Out: To question the Iraq war in the U.S. — and individuals from Main St. merchants to Hollywood stars do — is to be branded un-American. Dissent, once an ideal cherished in the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment, now invites media attacks, hate Web sites, threats and job loss.

I've been hearing a lot about this lately. There was a program on the radio about it as well recently. So I thought I'd share, since I do love my American friends, American and Unamerican.

depends

Date: 2003-08-09 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meninaiscrazy.livejournal.com
I've noticed that it depends on how they do it.

Forgot his name but, do what that one guy did on the Oscars and you get booed. Mainly its celebrities that get bashed because they are so vocal. I've actually heard some say stuff about how the Bush administration did the 9/11 attacks themselves or something like that. Which is a weird and wacko theory to me.

Most Americans are ambivilent. The majority (over 70% I think) supported the war and the celebrities and some of the protestors kept on saying the oppisite. I had friends that went to the protest but, they were clearly against Bush and his tactics. Not the soldiers. Which where I think some have had problems because they didn't stress it. It was 'Oh, by the way'. Which sounds kind of like your just saying it to be saying it.

I did and I am a liberal and a Democrat. I hardly ever agree with Bush. Which for me is a little hard because I live in his (and mine) home state. ;)

I think it is all in how they are presenting themselves. A few people I know rant and rave with friends about it but, in "public or work" they are more "diplomatic" about it. Those that I have seen get into trouble are those that do it in public. It's always been like this though from what my Mom and Dad tell me.

Who knows? This time next the US will be having elections soon. ;)

Date: 2003-08-09 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aelora.livejournal.com
This is exactly why I have entertained the idea of moving north so often the past year...

Date: 2003-08-09 07:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ladysorka
I so have to get out of this country.

Date: 2003-08-09 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vampiresetsuna.livejournal.com
: ( it's really sad.

Date: 2003-08-09 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 1anonymous1.livejournal.com
I dunno how I feel about this. My parents feel very strongly about supporting the president and the war. A lot of my friends feel otherwise. I really dont know which side Im on. I didnt want war, but I had this whole duty-honor-country thing going on with my family. I dunno, cant we all just get along?

Date: 2003-08-09 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] junkdrawer.livejournal.com
You don't mind us all moving to Canada, right? Right? ;_;

Date: 2003-08-09 09:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] idlerat.livejournal.com
I've never seen it so bad, & I'm 40-- Reagan years anyone? It's just awful.

Date: 2003-08-09 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] limmenel.livejournal.com
So I'm Unamerican if I disagree with our shit of a President?

Screw that!

Date: 2003-08-09 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slithy-megan.livejournal.com
I'm constantly getting crap from my friends and family about being un-American because I oppose the war and I dislike president Bush. My whole religion it seems is on his side, and not supporting him is like not supporting God in their eyes. Oh well, I'm not really into my religion anyway. Luckily though, I'm not a celebrity, so I don't have half of a nation hating my guts.

Perhaps I will also move to Canada someday. ;)

Date: 2003-08-09 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adinasauce.livejournal.com
*sigh*

I'm sorry. I DIDNT VOTE FOR BUSH. Thus, as fulfilling my duty as a citizen of a Democratic [sell-out] Country, I have every right to NOT LIKE Bush. I disliked him enough to fill in the arrow next to Gore's name, and since the buy-out in 2002 down in Florida I've liked him less and less. And this makes me Unamerican? Because I don't like a president I didnt vote for? RIGHT. I don't even let this crap affect me. It's complete stupidity, as well as hypocracy. *rolls eyes at it all*

Date: 2003-08-10 02:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I live in California, so maybe it's different if you're from a more conservative state, but there really was no pressure to be pro or anti-war.
Almost everyone was against it that I know of (in fact, I can't think of anyone who actively supported it off the top of my head). San Francisco had a huge anti-war rally a couple of months before the actual war occured and there were peace rallies in my city and a small but ever-present group of people who had regular pro-peace demonstrations. They held up pro-peace signs on street-corners that said things like "honk if you support peace" and the like, and there were quite a few drivers beeping.
From my perspective, actually, the "70% of the population was against the war" figure sounded correct.
I do agree; however, with the person who said that people who were especially vocal about being anti-war/anti-Bush have to be equally vocal about saying that they are pro-troops. America is very worried about having another repeat of Vietnam both because it was a military embarassment and also because the people who came back from that war were treated unbelievably badly by the public.

Date: 2003-08-10 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tocomfortyou.livejournal.com
Exactly. I live in CA, the Silicon Valley area to be exact, and there isn't very much support for Bush in this area. Even people like me, who live in small towns, don't encounter all that much opposition. Besides, it's not like anyone here voted for Bush anyway. ::wink::

Date: 2003-08-10 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maruchina.livejournal.com
O_o I'm having Third Reich flashbacks.

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