Porn

[ivyblossom]

I realize the porn industry has a ton of issues around abuse of women and drug use and so on and so forth, and on those grounds I have lots of issues with its production in certain contexts. But aside from those issues, what kind of damage does porn do to the family, exactly? How, pray tell, does legitimately produced porn hurt the children?

Please, Mr. Bush. I'm really waiting to hear.

Did you get whacked on the head with a porn video as a child?

Comments

[sinisterf.livejournal.com]

Did you get whacked on the head with a porn video as a child?

Yeah that could explain it! Maybe he got wacked on the head as a child with a porn vid by a gay person, who wanted to get married.

Or he could just be a dumb ass. As entertaining as the first option is I think I am going to vote for the dumb ass option.

[saucy-wench.livejournal.com]

Maybe he got wacked on the head as a child with a porn vid by a gay person, who wanted to get married.

*loves you randomly*

[sinisterf.livejournal.com]

*loves back not so randomly but with just as much passion*

[saucy-wench.livejournal.com]

Oh baby! *friends you*

[sinisterf.livejournal.com]

Yay friends are good!

[alongtheway.livejournal.com]

Probably the same way same-sex marriages hurt the poor heterosexuals.

[airemay.livejournal.com]

God, this is getting silly. This man is Proclaimation happy. Too bad I didn't have gov class all week (no school at all because of the fires) or I could have shared this with them.

[franzeska]

Ah... Yes... I have been pondering this, and he may have a point, you know. There is only one thing to be done.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

He needs to stop with the "week" thing already. It's getting really annoying.

*sigh*

Stupid president.

[v-vconservative.livejournal.com]

But aside from those issues, what kind of damage does porn do to the family, exactly? How, pray tell, does legitimately produced porn hurt the children?

Simple. It hurts the family and the children because we say it does! Honestly, if everyone just followed our moral code without question we wouldn't have a problem. Porn makes us uncomfortable, therefore porn is evil.

All your morals are belong to us.

[andi-sunrider.livejournal.com]

Perhaps it's all the pyschological drama induced by memories of frat hazing in college. Which, for the record, does not include goats.

[subtle-science.livejournal.com]

Simple:  Pornography hurts the family because the parents get all turned on and have sex and get pregnant, and then there are more little mouths to feed.  Well, more little liberal mouths to feed, at any rate — because conservatives just don't do that sort of thing.

[adinasauce.livejournal.com]

Pornography hurts families because if Mom and Dad happen to be watching one, they'll have evil thoughts about having sex for reasons other than procreation, which is why Marriage Protection Week is also necessary. If those Good Christians actually start fucking for pleasure they're going to gell, and Dubya just doesn't want that for his great country.

Other than extreme sarcasm, I have no idea. Tho I did write some smut just to spite Mr. Bush.

[lowi.livejournal.com]

If that guy wasn't president of one of the world's largest and most influential countries, I would probably laugh my ass off at the silliness of it all. As it is now it scares the hell out of me. What. An. Idiot! *shudders*

[nicolegray.livejournal.com]

I could perhaps be convinced that porn can contribute to misogyny in some ways (teaching people, frequently at impressionable ages, that women exist largely as objects of sexual desire, but little else), but even that is extremely debatable. I have no idea how porn could do damage to families beyond this. I suppose that if Dubya said something relatively insightful, like pointing out that girls grow up in a misogynistic society (which, perhaps, results partially from porn), then maybe I'd have a teeny weensy bit of respect for him. Unfortunately, Bush himself is a massive misogynist, so I doubt that this is what he has in mind.

[novembersnow.livejournal.com]

Personally, I suspect dear Laura made him watch some porn to spice up their marriage (she seems like she could be a bit of a wild woman under those conservative suits; she is a librarian, you know...), and he felt a little, well, inadequate afterward.

In honor of Pornography Protection Week

[valarltd.livejournal.com]

I'm posting old porn (http://www.livejournal.com/users/valarltd/178949.html) Het, slash, noncon, incest, fluff. It's all protected in my journal.

Porn can be damaging if it is the only source of sexual information a child receives. It warps the notion that sex can be something beautiful and meaningful. It reduces what should be a shared joy into mechanics. It reduces men to their dicks, and women to holes to shove those dicks into. It creates unrealistic body images in both male and female.

Pompeiian brothel paintings are NOT a good source of sexual education. Not when the guy is hung to his knees. Scared me to death, and turned me on at the same time. I was, shall we say, a bit disappointed by normal proportions.

As for the family: Porn can and does cause a lot of friction between spouses. A husband can get himself off quickly and easily with porn and not be interested in his wife. And when bed ain't right, ain't NOTHING right. Not every wife watches with him and says "cool, can we do that?" as I do. Many are repulsed. Some see it as a form of adultry.

[142978.livejournal.com]

You know, he's getting a little too generous with the "protection" weeks, here. The same thing happened at my high school when they started inflicting this "six pillars of character" bullshit on us - they just kept adding new things to help us become "better people". We might have actually gone downhill as a class after they brought the program into the school.

Anyway. Can't wait till he's out of office. I didn't even know what porn was until at least my freshman year of high school, so I don't know what he's talking about.

[bkwyrm.livejournal.com]

He had to have been whacked on the head with SOMETHING as a child. People don't just turn out like him normally. I hope.

[marycucumber.livejournal.com]

Why do us American's get stuck witht he fucktard for a president?
Why must we childeren be punished for the mistakes of our elders?
I think its obvious. Mr. Bush got whacked on the head with a porn video starring Sadam Hussien and other terriorists. Set in Iraq. With bombs in the backround.

[(Anonymous)]

Would like to keep anonymous because it isn't a great subject.

I understand how. My Father has manic depression, and doesn't work. When we got an internet connected PC he started looking at some pretty disgusting stuff, and leaving the links on the history page and the task bar so my eight year old sister could find web pages with names like "hotwetpussysex". I think, coincidentally that it was "Harry Potter" she was typing in to get that one.

Yes, our PC is in a public room, not much help when he's home alone all day.

And yes, it did bother my sister. It was pretty disgusting stuff. The worst case was that an image became attached to the home page, which mercifully she didn't find, but very easily could have. We're talking about as bad as you get, without featuring animals or children.

And before you say it, this isn't a probem that only occurs in trailor parks. My father has a university education and a proffesional job. If you pass him on the street you don't think he's a pervert, tramp, waster or anything else. And some of the stuff he was viewing was legitimate.

If you ban the worst end of the legitimate porn though, it becomes that bit easier to neutralise the illegal things. And if serious porn, as opposed to just nude/underwear pics, is harder to get hold of, it puts a lot of people off. We never had a problem with Father being a pervert before the internet made it simple for him. On the net it's all just a click away.

I agree with you all the way that Bush is over-reacting, and I don't think banning porn is the answer. Personally I think banning Bush would sort out a fair number of problems. He's a prat who doesn't know what he's talking about and has simply latched onto a nice catchphrase. I also see he has a point though, even if I doubt that he understands his own point. For 99% of people, this isn't an issue. But 99% isn't everyone, and for the odd family, it is. The vice squad wouldn't have helped us any, but less porn on the internet, and less accessable hard porn would probably meant it never became an issue anyway. There still would have been more problems than you could shake a broom at, but that wouldn't have been one of them.

Conversly, I don't think slash fan fiction is a problem at all. Writen porn is never going to have the shock value that images have, and neither is porn drawn with a pencil. Photographic images however need some kind of regulation.

[ivyblossom.livejournal.com]

Your father's problems sadly do not start or end with porn. First off, using a computer to look for porn when his children are going to be finding the evidence is just bad parenting. Porn is not causing the problem there. Your father's inappropriate behaviour is.