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From The American Library Association's statements on Censorship and Intellectual Freedom:
Intellectual freedom is the right of every individual to both seek and receive information from all points of view without restriction. It provides for free access to all expressions of ideas through which any and all sides of a question, cause or movement may be explored.

Intellectual freedom is the basis for our democratic system. We expect our people to be self-governors. But to do so responsibly, our citizenry must be well-informed. Intellectual freedom encompasses the freedom to hold, receive and disseminate ideas.

Censorship is the suppression of ideas and information that certain persons—individuals, groups or government officials—find objectionable or dangerous. It is no more complicated than someone saying, “Don’t let anyone read this book, or buy that magazine, or view that film, because I object to it! ” Censors try to use the power of the state to impose their view of what is truthful and appropriate, or offensive and objectionable, on everyone else. Censors pressure public institutions, like libraries, to suppress and remove from public access information they judge inappropriate or dangerous, so that no one else has the chance to read or view the material and make up their own minds about it. The censor wants to prejudge materials for everyone.

Censorship occurs when expressive materials, like books, magazines, films and videos, or works of art, are removed or kept from public access. Individuals and pressure groups identify materials to which they object. Sometimes they succeed in pressuring schools not to use them, libraries not to shelve them, book and video stores not to carry them, publishers not to publish them, or art galleries not to display them. Censorship also occurs when materials are restricted to particular audiences, based on their age or other characteristics.

In most instances, a censor is a sincerely concerned individual who believes that censorship can improve society, protect children, and restore what the censor sees as lost moral values. But under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, each of us has the right to read, view, listen to, and disseminate constitutionally protected ideas, even if a censor finds those ideas offensive.

Censors might sincerely believe that certain materials are so offensive, or present ideas that are so hateful and destructive to society, that they simply must not see the light of day. Others are worried that younger or weaker people will be badly influenced by bad ideas, and will do bad things as a result. Still others believe that there is a very clear distinction between ideas that are right and morally uplifting, and ideas that are wrong and morally corrupting, and wish to ensure that society has the benefit of their perception. They believe that certain individuals, certain institutions, even society itself, will be endangered if particular ideas are disseminated without restriction. What censors often don’t consider is that, if they succeed in suppressing the ideas they don’t like today, others may use that precedent to suppress the ideas they do like tomorrow.

The primary responsibility for rearing children rests with parents. If parents want to keep certain ideas or forms of expression away from their children, they must assume the responsibility for shielding those children. Governmental institutions cannot be expected to usurp or interfere with parental obligations and responsibilities when it comes to deciding what a child may read or view.
From the Canadian Library Association postion paper on Intellectual freedom:
All persons in Canada have the fundamental right, as embodied in the nation's Bill of Rights and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, to have access to all expressions of knowledge, creativity and intellectual activity, and to express their thoughts publicly. This right to intellectual freedom, under the law, is essential to the health and development of Canadian society.

Date: 2004-01-14 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ari-o.livejournal.com
so much with the love and the free.

*admires*

Date: 2004-01-14 12:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ivyblossom.livejournal.com
It's as if they wrote this with this exact situation in mind.

Date: 2004-01-14 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ari-o.livejournal.com
And now f_s is advocating a boycott of Salem2005 because I'm one of the Lead Event Planners and two other blacklisted members are in significantly responsible positions on our team.

am so amused by their tactics.

Date: 2004-01-14 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debellatrix.livejournal.com
Yay! Free advert!

Date: 2004-01-14 12:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2004-01-14 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorrie6.livejournal.com
ps: (yes I know I'm spamming now) I wrote this (http://www.livejournal.com/users/dorrie6/177187.html) to them earlier. I feel this supports my arguments to them very nicely (and more). I'm quite grateful to you for posting this.

Date: 2004-01-14 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penwiper26.livejournal.com
Amen and amen. As a library worker, I say again, amen!

And I lurve that icon. I need me something like that.

Date: 2004-01-14 01:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ivyblossom.livejournal.com
Feel free to steal it. I feel these things should be open source. :)

Date: 2004-01-14 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penwiper26.livejournal.com
Hey thanks! neato!

Date: 2004-01-14 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 1anonymous1.livejournal.com
Thank you for the good read...I mean supplying it. Yeah.:D

Date: 2004-01-14 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] treehavn.livejournal.com
Yeah, but, you know sometime things deserve to be censored. Like, when a person posts something on a website behind passwords and warnings, people should be able to slander them in a public forum - especially one where comments are screened by a biased group of people to prevent all sides of an argument being heard.

So yes. Intellectual freedom should only apply to certain people in certain situations. Or something. ;)

Date: 2004-01-14 08:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wishwords.livejournal.com
And let's not forget that simply by passwording your site you will completely PREVENT anyone who is not of the 'age of consent' reading your smut. Afterall, no one would send you a false age statement. *rolls eyes at idiots*

Date: 2004-01-14 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] race-carrigan.livejournal.com
I friended you, and just wanted to say, I hope you laugh at the black-list folks. It's truly hillarious, for it inspired me to go through and read all of those authors fics, and to encourage them. I figure, it's the opposite of what f_s wants, so why not do it? ^.~

Date: 2004-01-14 05:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ivyblossom.livejournal.com
Well, thanks for the support. I don't find it particularly funny, but meh. It's frustrating when you actually are aware of these issues and have tried to deal with them. But I like your attitude. :)

Date: 2004-01-14 02:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
You go, girl!!!

Date: 2004-01-14 02:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kerri
Dude, I love it when you find things like this that are just so perfect, and post them for us. <333!

Date: 2004-01-14 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] contrariwise.livejournal.com
Sometimes I just love my profession.

Date: 2004-01-14 05:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ivyblossom.livejournal.com
WORD. That's exactly what I was thinking. I have found my people!

Date: 2004-01-14 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storm-maven.livejournal.com
I ♥ you very much. I hope you know that.

Date: 2004-01-14 05:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ivyblossom.livejournal.com
*rubs noses*

Date: 2004-01-14 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] writerbuggie.livejournal.com
As a rule I don't read much slash (more because I haven't the time to branch off and find new fic than anything else) but this absolutely makes me want to dig in just to spite them. Thanks for the link.

Date: 2004-01-14 05:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ivyblossom.livejournal.com
I haven't written fanfiction in ages, but this is making me want to write some. O_o People are...diverse. Yeah, that's it.

Date: 2004-01-14 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcly.livejournal.com
You are the soothing voice of reason, bless you.
*loves*
*loathes fandom_scruples with raging incoherent fury*

Date: 2004-01-14 05:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ivyblossom.livejournal.com
*loves*

Well, I was going to post something myself, but I felt that the ALA summed it up pretty well. Oh, i got your card yesterday. *squeeees* I love it!!!

*smooches*

judy blume jk rowling and and and censors

Date: 2004-01-14 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilzzz.livejournal.com
*friends you*

I really, really adore you for quoting this, it's as if someone saw fandom_wank on their flist and started writing away about f_s. I personally find it both hilarious and ridiculous. First of all, as it has been said many times before, it is up to the PARENTS to decide what their children to read or not, and if parentol controls are not put in, it is not really the writer's fault. The fact that the mod of f_s says what we write is trash, or at least, imply it, makes me furious. Just because one person believes in something does not make it official, a fact, or true. It is only an opinion and they should express it in more private ways, or at least, express them without bringing a whole community, a whole universe into it, because, if this is about the internet, what about the world outside?

What about the books? There are many young adult books children get access to, that make them learn more about themselves and their bodies and distinguish the feelings they are having, although none quite above the PG-13 rating. This opinion that, "EVERY SINGLE NAUGHTY FIC SHOULD BE LOCKED AWAY" is impossible. Since these are our journals, I feel we can do whatever we do with them, and if little kiddies come in, that's their problem, not ours. J.K. Rowling has been censored in many libraries, because religious people believe she is satanic, and most of them have never even read the books. This is basically the same, except with the banner, "I read banned fics" plastered all over that little pinthingy. If one person believes in a foolish thing that ten other people believe in, it is still a foolish thing.

Err...yeah.

Re: judy blume jk rowling and and and censors

Date: 2004-01-14 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilzzz.livejournal.com
Oh yeah...."foolish" quote is from a hatelisting. I stole it.

Re: judy blume jk rowling and and and censors

Date: 2004-01-14 06:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ivyblossom.livejournal.com
I believe in responsible use of the internet, but the internet is not a child's toy. I am not peeing in a sandbox, here.

Whatever, they can do what they like. I've gone far enough to 'protect' children from my odd thoughts. Parents can take it from there.

Thanks for your thoughts on the issue. :)

Date: 2004-01-14 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastles.livejournal.com
hear hear.

if you don't mind, i'd be ganking this and putting it in my own lj :D

Date: 2004-01-14 06:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ivyblossom.livejournal.com
Do it, yo. :)

Date: 2004-01-14 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancingrain.livejournal.com
<3

go you, you radical librarian, you!

Date: 2004-01-14 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] al-riddle.livejournal.com
:D That's good. *marries Canada*

Date: 2004-01-14 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princesspita.livejournal.com
I stumbled upon that whole scruples group crap and am disgusted! that is beyond wrong, that this group is blacklisting authors.

It is both scary and sad.


Date: 2004-01-15 02:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] oconel
It's not just the censorship what scares me, but people thinking they are allowed to judge other people and moreover tell them what they must do.

(I hope it makes sense)

Date: 2004-01-15 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lpc4.livejournal.com
i posted this in my own journal. "What censors often don’t consider is that, if they succeed in suppressing the ideas they don’t like today, others may use that precedent to suppress the ideas they do like tomorrow." The best part.

Date: 2004-01-15 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmen-sandiego.livejournal.com
Dude, I love that you posted this, and that you included American and Canadian statements both.

I might also add, that Canada is a signatory on the 1989 United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, which encourages children and adults to work in partnership with each other rather than excluding children from active citizenship.

Is the US a signatory on this global document? Nope.

Date: 2004-01-20 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prozacnation.livejournal.com
I wasn't a fan of slash fic since I read my first story in the Xfiles fandom in 1996. Either it was going overboard or badly written.

Recently, many of my friends are into slash and [livejournal.com profile] dorrie6 wrote a wonderful and romantic Harry/Draco story that made me see slash in a different light. I loved it!

I don't see why people just can't turn away when they see fic. They have to be a dramawhore in a fandom, community or whatever. It's their freedom to not look, to switch the channel or to not see a film.

I also wish parents did more parenting instead of leaving it up to the government to implement ratings systems or anything else in the media. This tells the parents they don't have to take the time to sit with their child and explain to them what is right and what is wrong or go to a film with them to be supervised.

My parents took me to Rated R movies before the age of 17 (with one of them going with me), let me watch what I wanted to on cable as long as I used my good judgment. My parents also supervised me with the television. (this was the 1970s and 1980s)

I'm not seeing that today. :(

I'm now afraid for children on the 'net - not becuase of NC17 fic, but because of predators who are posing as teens but are in fact adults who want to exploit and/or harm them via any IM service or email message. :(

The fic is the least of any parents worry IMHO.

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